Ok well Ive been using sketchup lately and I have to say it is alot easier for me.(being some what of a MS paint artist and in real life artist, which is one of my electives) Now then on to my problem..... When I model a great, badass looking model in sketchup, then convert to .3ds, the model is all fucked up when I import into milkshape. Ive been wonder y it does that, so does anyone here use sketchup that could help me?? am I exporting wrong??